New release v1.8 build 14: simpler menu

Just push the new release named build 14,

Adding more and more divers in the menu make it longer and longer and even with the current favorites system, I found difficult to get the one I search at first glance. So in this version, the most interesting feature is the ability to limit the menu to the favorites.

New divers

– ring data for Dipsy Magnum
– Torpedo Deep Sea divers
– Torpedo steel line
– lures impact on Torpedo

New fixes

– UI updates
– memory of state reload

From 12 to 46, more divers, more choices

The first version was for 12 divers :

  • Dipsy, Dipsy Zero, Dipsy mini and Magnum
  • Pink Lady : 3 models
  • Jet Diver : 4 models
  • Lead lines : only 1 model

the latest version offers 34 more

  • Chinook Diver : 5 models
  • DeepSix Diver : 3 models
  • U-Charter Slide divers : 3 models
  • Big Jon divers : 2 models
  • Torpedo : 4 models
  • Torpedo Deep sea diver : 2 sets
  • Copper lines : 2 models
  • Torpedo Steel line
  • Team Dreamweaver Deeper Diver : 5 models
  • Team Dreamweaver Rundown Trip-Z de : 4 models
  • Lead lines : 3 new models

Retired divers: Torpedo Deep Sea diver

That’s an interesting subject, these old divers are not available anymore so their data is not easy to find. As their have an excellent quality and are very durable, it’s pretty sure that some of us have still them in their fishing box. So adding them will certainly help some.

In this case, the Torpedo are still available and they were used in conjonction with the retired Deep Sea diver to reach deeper water, so we have two sets the diver alone and in conjonction.

Hope this will help.


Torpedo: impact of lure on depth

While working on adding Torpedo Deep Sea diver, an abandoned divers but that some of you could still have and use, I found this advice from the company:

Lures and dodgers/flasher/rotators all have drag. A 4-inch lure will cause your presentation to lose two feet of depth,  a magnum spoon will lose 5 feet of depth and dodgers/flasher/rotators will lose 7 feet of depth. This is important information when  making precise depth presentation.

As it is interesting for accurate presentation, I updated the interface for the Torpedos to add this new parameters:

  • 4″ lure
  • magnum spoon
  • dodger, flasher or rotator.


Magnum Dipsy : data for O’Ring

After having dowloaded the last version, Malcolm wrote to says that the data for the Magnum Dipsy with O’Ring was missing. It was true that the switch was enabled on the user interface but it was inactive. As Malcolm said it would be useful, I search in my library to find out if I had this chart and most of them was only showing the basic length for depth. I finally found a photo of the packaging with the full chart. It is already added and will be available in the next release.

Testing, Testing, Testing

Most of the calculations were 10 years old and even if we rewrote them quite a few times in different programming languages, they were fairly sure. BUT we finally discovered a few mistakes like the Dipsy Mini going down 40 feet 🙁 or the BigJon sizes mixed. So we decided to setup a full testing procedure. For each of the divers, this system tests each model for basic settings : low depth and the deeper, plate position or line strength, and speed. For each model, some specific testing are done like the many speeds of Torpedos or O-Ring and Fireline. 

The test is written by settings the parameters and the given length from the manufacturer documentation, and automatically comparing the result of the calculation function. IE if the manufacturer says that the Dipsy Driver #1 at 2.2MPH needs 16 feet of line to reach 10′ with the plate on center, we enter these parameters and check if the app gives the right length. Then we test with the plate on 3, and compare the result with the true value of 30, and do another test at 70′, plate on center and O’Ring to check the 150. 

Now before any release, these complete tests are run to ensure that we show the right trolling line length.

Copper Line

We had Leadcore Line and we added new functions recently to it, but we never had Copper Line. In Dipsy Troller, Version 3, assuming you want to have all solutions at your fingertips, we decided to add the two most used Copper lines 30# and 45#.

Also, these lines are not as abrasion resistant as steel wires nor their surface is hard as steel wires – don’t go shark fishing with copper fishing lines – they are harder than nylon mono lines, but … Also, kink resistance of copper wires could be better 🙂

Bloodrun copper lineDue to copper’s density of 8.96g/cm3, copper fishing lines sink much more than ordinary lines – for example, Blood Run Tackle Copper Fishing Line dive depths are around:

– 20 pound copper fishing line – 8 feet of depth for every 50 feet of line released at 2.5 mph (2.43m of depth for every 15.3m of line released at 4km/h or 2.2 knots),
– 32 pound copper fishing line – 8 feet of depth for every 50 feet of line released at 2.5 mph,
– 45 pound copper fishing line – 9 (2.75m) feet of depth for every 50 feet of line released at 2.5 mph,
– 60 pound copper fishing line – 11 (3.35m) feet of depth for every 50 feet of line released at 2.5 mph.

These values are for buoyancy neutral lures.Of course, actual lure or bait depth depends on many factors like:

– speed and direction of underwater currents,
– lure and bait buoyancy and drag resistance,
– trolling speed,

Recommended usage: use copper fishing line as the main line and good fluoro line as the line leader – few feet (not more than 20 feet) is more than enough. Leader line length, of course, depends on fishing depth, trolling speed, how clear is the water, daylight conditions etc.

More new functions: memory

Most of the time, the app was keeping the current settings when you were switching to answer a call or check your mails. But sometimes, it was loosing the current length of line calculation. Another case where this could be useful, is the cas where you are fishing 2 different divers to get to different depths. 

At the end, it is more to remember where I intended to fish than the real length of line.

Anyway, now, the app keep track of your latest request and it’s cool.



Plate drag

The first and second versions used 2 simple arrows to set up the dive direction plate position. It was for simplicity and usefulness. Driving a boat on the Great Lakes is not an easy feat and if you use an app at the same time, it must be quick and simple. Ten years later, everybody has got time to train and get better with drags swipes. the new version adds this move to set up the directional plate. BTW to not have it would make the app an old and odd design.